The average golfer would be best served by not thinking FORWARD at all. All it does it invite steering and swinging towards the target.
My clubhead travels forward. But do I move it forward? If I don't try to move it forward, will it move backwards? Of course not.
Down, yes.
Out, yes.
And that's all I focus on.
This may be a goofball question . . .but how does it go OUT without going forward? I reckon OUT to the ball or aiming point but not Forward toward the target?
What Component is the Most Responsible for FORWARD?
And should you ever think about it?
The Down and Out thought is probably valid for those who think about this while swing. They also probably are still thinking about the clubhead and that is where your steering really comes into play. JMO.
Understanding that the golf stroke is 3-Dimensional is for most a novel concept. Look at the golf instruction books over the past years, this concept is rarely written about.
I think understanding the Shoulder and Arm's role in the 3 dimensional golf stroke would do well to over come the incorrect focus. JMO.
OUT is "where you're facing" as you swing. Down is into the ground. Forward is towards the target. The three dimensions. I could, theoretically, move the clubhead DOWN and OUT only. The clubhead would move perpendicular to the plane line. Now how hard would that be to do in the real world?
Really hard. Which is why you're going to move the club forward whether you think about it...or whether you don't!
Martee - I agree that the concept of three dimensions is absolutely integral to understanding the golf stroke. The vast majority of the Golfing World doesn't understand it, never will, and doesn't care. We know about it and are cognizant of it (either consciously or subconsciously) every time we make a stroke. That said, I think that once the concept is developed within the Computer we can then omit the "forward" component from our conscious thought.
I don't know if there is a component that is most responsible for "forward." I believe, as I've discussed, that it's more a factor within the geometry of the circle. It's a geometry issue, not a physics issue. Sure, physics is what explains the forces that propel the "forward" dimension, but geometry is what sets it up to begin with. Without the correct geometric structure we will have no "forward."
Forward is a resultant force from a downward and outward motion in the golf swing. Right Forearm downward....at release, the rotational action of the hips throw the shoulders outward. So the motion the swinger or hitter needs to think about at the beginning of the downswing is a downward motion of the right forearm...any thought of going outward at the the beginning of the downstroke will cause an over the top move...an off-plane move.
See 2-N-1 the Forward Force Vector of the Clubhead (7-23)is a resultant force.
The primary downward force vector is produced by straightening the right elbow. Hmmm exactly the way Tom Tomasello taught TGM. Right out of the 7th edition.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 09-27-2006 at 11:38 PM.
Forward is a resultant force from a downward and outward motion in the golf swing. Right Forearm downward....at release, the rotational action of the hips throw the shoulders outward. So the motion the swinger or hitter needs to think about at the beginning of the downswing is a downward motion of the right forearm...any thought of going outward at the the beginning of the downstroke will cause an over the top move...an off-plane move.
See 2-N-1 the Forward Force Vector of the Clubhead (7-23)is a resultant force.
The primary downward force vector is produced by straightening the right elbow. Hmmm exactly the way Tom Tomasello taught TGM. Right out of the 7th edition.
DG
Yes sir! Another VERY INTERESTING change to 2-N-1 is that AXIS TILT is NO LONGER responsible for Downward Motion as in the 6th . . . but it is . . .
Responsible for ON-PLANE MOTION. Wonder what made him have this revelation?
What causes the club to go to the left after impact? In other words, when I swing down and out, the forward takes care of the forward because it has no where else to go. But, what happens when the club goes too far out ? For someone underplane and too inside out, how do we get the club to move forward and around after passing the left shoulder? or do we want that at all?
What causes the club to go to the left after impact? In other words, when I swing down and out, the forward takes care of the forward because it has no where else to go. But, what happens when the club goes too far out ? For someone underplane and too inside out, how do we get the club to move forward and around after passing the left shoulder? or do we want that at all?
You don't if you are using the 10-5-E plane line . . . but if you are using the Geometric Plane Line and you are too far out you are OFF PLANE. The solution is Tracing and look look look until you can see what On-Plane look like. Then translate that into a feel.
OUT is "where you're facing" as you swing. Down is into the ground. Forward is towards the target. The three dimensions. I could, theoretically, move the clubhead DOWN and OUT only. The clubhead would move perpendicular to the plane line. Now how hard would that be to do in the real world?
Really hard. Which is why you're going to move the club forward whether you think about it...or whether you don't!
Martee - I agree that the concept of three dimensions is absolutely integral to understanding the golf stroke. The vast majority of the Golfing World doesn't understand it, never will, and doesn't care. We know about it and are cognizant of it (either consciously or subconsciously) every time we make a stroke. That said, I think that once the concept is developed within the Computer we can then omit the "forward" component from our conscious thought.
I don't know if there is a component that is most responsible for "forward." I believe, as I've discussed, that it's more a factor within the geometry of the circle. It's a geometry issue, not a physics issue. Sure, physics is what explains the forces that propel the "forward" dimension, but geometry is what sets it up to begin with. Without the correct geometric structure we will have no "forward."
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