I could be wrong but my understanding of paddle-Wheel motion is that of the old river boat steamers where the rear paddle-wheel only revolved methodically. As I apply this thinking to golf I would say that the entire club (shaft, face and head) rotates constantly from Top to both arms straight.
Johngolf33,
Old River Boat- exactly correct.
I think you missed Homer's application to the golf swing though- or at least your answer is a little vague in that regard.
More later.
Paddlewheel motion -- the motion of the blade as it rotates around an axis. On the boat, the axis is vertical to a vertical plane, and the paddles demonstrate vertical hinging (layback only).
Applied to golf, it is hinge action -- the clubface motion resulting when a flat left wrist moves vertical to one of the three basic planes.
Paddle motion- Right on Bob!
Applied to golf- Right on again! (As applied to hingng 2-G),
but as in 10-10-C Homer also uses the term for the right arm- so we need to understand that context of Paddlewheel also. More later on that- then I'd like to start at the beginning and apply the concepts to some of the posts and why they missed the mark to some degree.
Glossary:
Flat and Vertical Left Wrist- example left hand karate chop
Mechanical- The Paddlewheel blade relationship as vertical to its axis of rotation (crosswise) and vertical to its plane of motion (lengthwise).
Golf- Positioning the Left Wrist to be vertical to its Left shoulder Axis and to its Associated Plane during Impact.
10-24-E Automatic Snap Release……….The Paddlewheel Action of Angled Hinging (10-10-C) or the Throw Out Action of Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-0), if unhampered, will whip the Hands and the Clubface into impact alignment per 7-23.
10-19-0 Last paragraph
Hinge action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging. All are interchangeable- with reservations. Hitters using Horizontal Hinging must consciously resist the tendency of Right Arm Paddlewheel Action toward Angled Hinging. Swingers using Angled Hinging must consciously resist the tendency of Centrifugal Force toward Horizontal Hinging.
10-10-C Angled Hinge Action……This simultaneous “Closing and Layback” procedure holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane (2-D, 2-G). This is identical to the Paddlewheel motion of the straightening right arm but is a superior procedure (1-F). It greatly simplifies Hitting (10-19-A).
10-2-D
The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On Plane- no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.
7-20- 7th edition
Paragraph 2- 1st to last sentence- starting at remember- “Remember, only right elbow feel- neither triceps- or lag pressure- can safely monitor the paddlewheel motion of the straightening right arm for proper clubface closing motion.”
7-18
The Paddlewheel action of the straightening Right Elbow (10-10-C) initiates and sustains the #3 Accumulator Hand Motion (4-D-0) until the Both Arms Straight and zero #3 Accumulator position of Full Extension.
6-B-1-0
Active or Passive, the straightening Right Elbow with its Paddlewheel Action, powers, guides and regulates the #3 Accumulator Motion (seven-eighteen) but not the actual Clubface aligning (1-F).
2-G 2nd paragraph
These motions also duplicate the motions of the paddles of a paddlewheel rotating around an axis vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. And an equivalent term could be “Clubface Paddlewheel Action” executed as a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion.
This gives us some information to work with but before we dig deeper- just a comment/guess on the man and the issues of writing the book.
The amount of effort, intelligence and focus required to produce a piece of work such as the Golfing Machine is enormous- and that focus for accomplishment doesn’t leave room for other items/focuses/skills, that’s really a comment on his intellectual brilliance and the cause of the “blank spots”.
Second, no one would or could help him much- so many areas that should have been accomplished were not, just due to a lack of time due to the obsession and amount of time the researching took.
Finally, there may have been feedback that would have been good but Homer had some particular issue that made him decide not to make an apparent “good” change, i.e. money, etc. According to himself, he was really and primarily a Researcher- not a Teacher, not a Writer, not a Publisher- so he was a great Researcher but not a very good writer- (my opinion). All of the above created this “problem” of the Golfing Machine- on the one hand it’s so precise, detailed, all the puzzle pieces fit (isn’t that great!)- on the other hand- he doesn’t define all his terms, he doesn’t identify his resources as is a common scientific protocol, and in referring to any particular item such as “Paddlewheel”, he changes the context depending on the discussion without clearly identifying the different context- “He expects you to understand the principle i.e. of Paddlewheel and then apply that principle in any particular context i.e. left wrist, right forearm, etc. Whether the expectation for you to apply that principle was conscious (he thought you could do it) or subconscious (he understood the context himself-“well of course” and he didn’t even think about whether others would understand the change in context- from one section to the other), I have no idea.
So I better stop rambling and just complain at this point- Starting at the index on page 240 – for Paddlewheel he has one reference! 10-10-C
Maybe it’s just my obsessive personality but I would have wanted to be thorough (hey I may have missed some- add’em on if I did) and listed the following with their corresponding paragraphs and line numbers (which I didn’t list here)
2-G 2nd paragraph, lines …….
6-B-1-0
7-18
7-20
10-2-D
10-10-C
10-19-0 last paragraph
10-24-E
Glossary- Flat Left Wrist
Will all of those references be in the 7th edition- no. Would or could they help the reader- I think yes.
2nd, I would have defined the term under PaddleWheel in the Glossary and then identified the different contexts that it is used in the book i.e. 1) 2-G left wrist, 2) 10-10-C 1st sentence left wrist, 2nd sentence on-plane right forearm, etc, etc
The whole point comes down to clarity- and the problem why this information has not and will not get out as quickly as it could have. In this Paddlewheel example (see above sections from the book)- he intermingles Right Elbow, Right Arm, etc etc creating confusion for the reader. Could it all be written alot clearer- absolutely! Could it be so much more powerful- ABSOLUTELY!
Feel free to jump in and comment- when I get time I plan to post again in regards to clarifying paddlewheel – even though with all of these posts that everyone has already posted, and this information, it may be obvious by now. And then directly respond to 10-10-C in regards to what it is saying. Plus responding to any other posts.
In 10-10-C Homer states that "Closing and Layback" holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane and that this is idential to the paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm but is a superior prodedure (1-F). Why would you teach turning the clubface to lie on the Plane at the Top and paddle-Wheeling it down to impact if Homer thought the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action greatly simpifies Hitting? Is the paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm more dynamic since it uses more #3 Accumulator than the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action? Just curious.
It appears as though Arron Oberholser uses Angled Hinge Action since his clubface is shut at the Top. He then no-rolls it through impact as Homer states in 10-10-C.
Differentiating the Fine Points of Angled Hinge Action
Originally Posted by johngolf33
In 10-10-C Homer states that "Closing and Layback" holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane and that this is identical to the paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm but is a superior prodedure (1-F). Why would you teach turning the clubface to lie on the Plane at the Top and paddle-Wheeling it down to impact if Homer thought the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action greatly simpifies Hitting? Is the paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm more dynamic since it uses more #3 Accumulator than the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action? Just curious.
Three Points:
1. The No-Roll Feel of Angled Hinging produces a Half-Roll of the Clubface through Impact. Only the Reverse Roll Feel of Vertical Hinging produces a No-Roll (Square alignment) of the Clubface (7-10).
2. Both the Hitter using Angled Hinging Wrist Action (10-18-C-2) and the Swinger using Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) arrive at The Top of the Stroke with the Hands Turned on Plane. The difference is that the Hitter got there gradually via the normal Body Turn and Arm Swing whereas the Swinger got there early via the Start Up Swivel. In other words, for Hitters, the Wrists arrive Turned, but they are never independently 'Turned.' Swingers, on the other hand, deliberately Turn their Wrists to the Plane in Start Up and leave them there as they travel Up Plane during the Backstroke.
3. The Paddle-Wheel Right Arm straightening produces the Paddle Wheel Flat Left Wrist Angled Hinge Action (2-G and 6-B-3-0). Hence, the #3 Accumulator Roll is the same no matter whether the player focuses on the Right Arm and its straightening or the Left Wrist and its Hinge Action. However, the Flat Left Wrist exercises the overall control of the Clubface Alignment (Geometry) that has been produced by the straightening Right Arm (Physics). Hence...
Precision G.O.L.F. Mechanics:Structure (Feel through Educated Hands) controlling the Geometry of a Force.
1. The No-Roll Feel of Angled Hinging produces a Half-Roll of the Clubface through Impact. Only the Reverse Roll Feel of Vertical Hinging produces a No-Roll (Square alignment) of the Clubface (7-10).
2. Both the Hitter using Angled Hinging Wrist Action (10-18-C-2) and the Swinger using Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) arrive at The Top of the Stroke with the Hands Turned on Plane. The difference is that the Hitter got there gradually via the normal Body Turn and Arm Swing whereas the Swinger got there early via the Start Up Swivel. In other words, for Hitters, the Wrists arrive Turned, but they are never independently 'Turned.' Swingers, on the other hand, deliberately Turn their Wrists to the Plane in Start Up and leave them there as they travel Up Plane during the Backstroke.
3. The Paddle-Wheel Right Arm straightening produces the Paddle Wheel Flat Left Wrist Angled Hinge Action (2-G and 6-B-3-0). Hence, the #3 Accumulator Roll is the same no matter whether the player focuses on the Right Arm and its straightening or the Left Wrist and its Hinge Action. However, the Flat Left Wrist exercises the overall control of the Clubface Alignment (Geometry) that has been produced by the straightening Right Arm (Physics). Hence...
Precision G.O.L.F. Mechanics:Structure (Feel through Educated Hands) controlling the Geometry of a Force.
Thanks Oh Jedi Master. I am clear on your explanation, and it is spot on with what you taught me in the swamp. However I am still vexed about exactly what Homer is saying in 10-10-C is identical to paddle-Wheel but is a superior procedure. Is he talking about Left Wrist control is superior to trying to control the clubface with right arm straightening? Secondly, would you ever recommend having a shut clubface at the top with vertical hinging to Hit?
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Last edited by johngolf33 : 02-12-2006 at 10:39 PM.
...I am still vexed about exactly what Homer is saying in 10-10-C is identical to paddle-Wheel but is a superior procedure. Is he talking about Left Wrist control is superior to trying to control the clubface with right arm straightening?
Secondly, would you ever recommend having a shut clubface at the top with vertical hinging to Hit?
The issue actually is Clubface Paddlewheel Action (2-G) and whether it is best executed as Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion or Right Wrist Paddlewheel Motion. In either case, both the Left and Right Wrists are held Vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. In the case of Angled Hinging, that Plane is the Angled Plane of the Stroke.
But the Right Wrist Bend -- and hence the Clubface alignment -- is easily disturbed by variations in Right Shoulder Location and its effect on the Right Elbow's Impact Bend (2-H). The Left Wrist is subject to neither of these interferences and is thus best suited to the task of Clubface control.
Regarding the 'Shut' Face with Vertical Hinging, the Left Wristcock is always a Perpendicular Motion (4-B-2), even when executed on the Inclined Plane. And this is true no matter which of the three Hinge Actions are employed. Then, whether the Clubface is Square, Open or Shut (using the conventional terms) at The Top is a function of its alignment during the Grip Routine and any adjustments to the normal Impact alignments of 2-J-1. That is, Grip Type per 10-2-0-1 or Clubface Manipulation (Grip Rotation) per 7-2 or both. And, also, the Ball Location per 7-11, that is, the Clubface aligned more and more Closed (within the Flat, Level and Vertical Left Hand Grip) as the Ball is moved toward the Right Foot.
my first post here...lots of good info mikeo...does this all mean the the left wrist and hand from impact to followthru, remains vertical to the plane?
my first post here...lots of good info mikeo...does this all mean the the left wrist and hand from impact to followthru, remains vertical to the plane?
Well, hello there, Olindutra, and thanks for this "first post."
The Flat Left Wrist and its Roll (Hinge Action) controls the Clubface Alignment (and the Rhythm of the Stroke) during Impact and Follow-Through. In so doing, it remains Vertical to one of the three Basic Planes of motion, i.e., Horizontal, Angled or Vertical. It remains Vertical to the Inclined Plane only during Angled Hinge Action.
P.S. Hope you're having a nice time in Panama City, Brian.
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