It was the 1960 US Open at Cherry Hills where Arnie came back from 7 shots to beat Hogan and Nicklaus. Hogan had a chance to win this won but spun his wedge on #17 into the water's edge and failed to get it up and down. Hogan and Nicklaus were paired together and he told the press that if the kid he played with ever learned to manage his game that we would be a world beater. Guess he was right!!
Do any of you Swingers produce FADES by employing Angled Hinging, or do you just adjust your Fix and Address alignments, and still use Horizontal Hinging?
It depends on the shot,if i'm swinging a long iron or on a full -out shot,I'll adjust my alignments.
For less than full power i'll angle ,or even vertical, hinge.
Yoda:
Thanks for the warm welcome. I just relocated to Las Vegas from Omaha and I'm looking to connect with a TGM instructor or student of the game. I see John Reigger calls Henderson home but I know he is busy with his full time job. Anyone else in LV that you would recommend talking to to discuss the TGM?
Thanks,
Pat
Thanks for the warm welcome. I just relocated to Las Vegas from Omaha and I'm looking to connect with a TGM instructor or student of the game. I see John Reigger calls Henderson home but I know he is busy with his full time job. Anyone else in LV that you would recommend talking to to discuss the TGM?
Pat,
John Riegger plays out of his club, TPC Summerlin in Las Vegas, and is headed for his early 'stompin' grounds' in Paducah, Kentucky, this week. I'll be talking with him tomorrow and will ask if he has any recommendations for you.
Meanwhile, thanks again for your posts. We are delighted you have chosen to associate with us at LBG.
I have never met John but know a few of his college team mates. JC Anderson, Trevor Dodds and Phil Jonas. Would like to meet him. Maybe at the LV Invitational. The golf world sure is small!
Looking at all the key PGA stats for 2006 there is one stat (other than scoring average) that stands out -- Par 5 Birdie Leaders
The top three:
1 1 Vijay Singh
2 2 Tiger Woods
3 3 Phil Mickelson
And it probably looks about the same for 2007. However, par 3 stats are usually over par. To me that is an indication for the non-bombers to take some advantage with precision irons. Or what about par 4s, more of those than long and short holes.
My memory may fail mer here, but in the days of Palmer, Nicklaus, Player and Trevino they played their longer irons better than the present generation of pros, simply because on a par four they may play driver 5I, where today it is wok-skillet LW #3. So they needed to be good with a 5I on more occasions than only on tee from a par 3...., but I might be a delusional nostalgic.
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Originally Posted by Mathew
Unfortunately Darruis, YOU ARE WRONG.
Ok lets just go along with these assumptions just for now even though they are heavily weighted towards your arguement.
You don't just divide the driving distance (yards) by the fairway with the half of the fairways width(yards) and expect to find anything useful. All you have found is the difference between a fifteenth of their driving distance - you could of just subtracted their driving distances together and divided by 15 and you would of come up with the same answer....an answer which isn't much use for anyone. It doesn't say much about your maths skills or those of GPStyles who seems to think your akin to Albert Einstein.
The correct differences are these.... I've omitted the sums because you won't understand them anyhow...
Woods hitting 300 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 5.73197 degrees margin for error.
Hogan hitting 250 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 6.87963 degrees margin for error.
So hogan at 80% FIR having to be 83.4% less accurate than Woods would only hit the fairway 66% of the time at 300 yards.
So where you plucked this number from I do not know - perhaps you clicked your heels together three times.
The pure maths is pointless to the debate and anyhow the maths becomes more in Tigers favour when you increase the fairway from the super tight hypothetical width you set. I could think of plenty of arguements that when added up make the maths arguement sound silly. It would be like a game of Jenga but its your arguement falling after each one of these blocks (variables you have not accounted for) and you couldn't even set the game properly up to begin with because you suck at Maths.
My feeling is that Wood's golf stroke is better than Hogans... You just wanted to try and own me - You tried and you failed... Try harder next time.
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Matthew,
I don't dispute your math. Longer shots on the same angle off line miss the target by more distance. Simple right? Watch the Hogan vs. Snead Shell match at Houston CC. Balls are not just catching the fairway. Hogan is curving the ball so it stays in the center of the fairway as the hole doglegs. "Fit to fairway like hand to glove." This where math gets lost. If the ball is not deflected from the target line, the distance does not factor.
Mike O's Questions:
Henny or anyone else,
I'd like to hear more about working the ball - Both Ways - in regards to course management. How many of the PGA tour pros work the ball both ways - as a particular hole requires? What are some of the common situations or tips for when to work the ball, etc?
Also, Here's my quiz question: When would you NOT want a ball curving in the same direction as the dogleg - "Fit to fairway like hand to glove"?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathew
Unfortunately Darruis, YOU ARE WRONG.
Ok lets just go along with these assumptions just for now even though they are heavily weighted towards your arguement.
You don't just divide the driving distance (yards) by the fairway with the half of the fairways width(yards) and expect to find anything useful. All you have found is the difference between a fifteenth of their driving distance - you could of just subtracted their driving distances together and divided by 15 and you would of come up with the same answer....an answer which isn't much use for anyone. It doesn't say much about your maths skills or those of GPStyles who seems to think your akin to Albert Einstein.
The correct differences are these.... I've omitted the sums because you won't understand them anyhow...
Woods hitting 300 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 5.73197 degrees margin for error.
Hogan hitting 250 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 6.87963 degrees margin for error.
So hogan at 80% FIR having to be 83.4% less accurate than Woods would only hit the fairway 66% of the time at 300 yards.
So where you plucked this number from I do not know - perhaps you clicked your heels together three times.
The pure maths is pointless to the debate and anyhow the maths becomes more in Tigers favour when you increase the fairway from the super tight hypothetical width you set. I could think of plenty of arguements that when added up make the maths arguement sound silly. It would be like a game of Jenga but its your arguement falling after each one of these blocks (variables you have not accounted for) and you couldn't even set the game properly up to begin with because you suck at Maths.
My feeling is that Wood's golf stroke is better than Hogans... You just wanted to try and own me - You tried and you failed... Try harder next time.
HENNY's Answer
Matthew,
I don't dispute your math. Longer shots on the same angle off line miss the target by more distance. Simple right? Watch the Hogan vs. Snead Shell match at Houston CC. Balls are not just catching the fairway. Hogan is curving the ball so it stays in the center of the fairway as the hole doglegs. "Fit to fairway like hand to glove." This where math gets lost. If the ball is not deflected from the target line, the distance does not factor.
Mike O's Questions:
Henny or anyone else,
I'd like to hear more about working the ball - Both Ways - in regards to course management. How many of the PGA tour pros work the ball both ways - as a particular hole requires? What are some of the common situations or tips for when to work the ball, etc?
Also, Here's my quiz question: When would you NOT want a ball curving in the same direction as the dogleg - "Fit to fairway like hand to glove"?
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Someone discovered the bold button and the font drop down . . . .
It is during these times of increased mental capacity that unfortunately people tend to disappear and to later be found bound and gagged . . . dead or worse. If a strange man wearing a Speedo with a potato in the back approaches you at a gas station or a porn shop with breath that smells like he has been licking peoples' arm pits that live at bus stations . . . do not make any sudden moves, return any open mouth kisses, or respond to more than playful slaps on the butt . . . . slowly remove yourself from the area and bathe. This person is extremely dangerous to humans and livestock.
Bagger has no idea how many "lurkers" are really worm infested bodies in my backyard! But my ultimate catch will be when the 12 piece goes silent.
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Bagger has no idea how many "lurkers" are really worm infested bodies in my backyard! But my ultimate catch will be when the 12 piece goes silent.
Rumor has it that MikeO is moving to the East Coast soon. Its making a lot more sense now. Bigger backyard needed and closer to "the prize". Bucket has been very quiet here lately. Is he changing identity?
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