please rip my swing apart.

[macgolf]

I can understand right handed, been dealing with it my whole life. It doesn't bother me at all if you guys speak in righty terms that is why when I made the post, I spoke in righty terms. Maybe that was a mistake

[Mike O]

Mike O
I was just thinking isnt that left palm up after impact due to no swivel? If I swiveled then wouldnt that turn my left hand over ?

Mac,
Those are questions that require a lengthy answer to understand the issues and work on it by yourself. In the next few days I'll reply back with my perspective.

[12 piece bucket]

I think you gotta shorten that arm swing and get your right shoulder trajectory to work LESS VERTICAL and MORE OUT. I'll follow up with another post. But look at Hogan's right shoulder shoulder motion it is working down yes . . . but also OUT. If you are going to be a Hitter . . . You need to understand the backstop and the Launching Pad . . . . Are you trying to do Stack and Tilt? Your right shoulder (left or trail) works too vertical to the ground. That's more of a "spinning the fly wheel motion" ala swinging. The Hitter's shoulder right shoulder should stay HIGH ala Hogan and then work down AND OUT. Have a look at this.

[Daryl]

Mike O
I was just thinking isnt that Right (left) palm up after impact due to no swivel? If I swiveled then wouldnt that turn my Right (left) hand over ?

Mac, I'm sure that Mike O will explain the issue in detail if he has time enough after shoveling snow.



In the meantime, maybe this short answer can help clear some fog. The Right Palm Up after Impact is due to not Hinging through Impact, and not Hinging is due in part from keeping your Left Arm glued to your chest.

[12 piece bucket]

Not Hogan's Top position . . . hands basically in-line with the right shoulder . . . no need for any extra "Top Arc-y" stuff . . . the hands are in position to be MOVED down their path . . . efficiency. Shorten that arm swing if you are going to Hit (Swing for that matter too).



Now have a look at this picture at start down . . . . From the top he is moving his right shoulder down but "ON TOP" of the left arm (Primary Lever Assembly) . . . the right shoulder is on top of the left arm and pressuring it DOWN PLANE. Your shoulder motion seems to want to work UNDERNEATH the left arm. You need more OUT in your shoulder motion. Some of that will get cleaned up with some sequencing if you shorten the arm swing and get your hands DEEPER. Rather than thinking long backswing up . . . think of long backswing DEEEEEEP.

Then you need to feel like your going to take the tip of your right shoulder (left for you) and connect it to that dimple on top of your left elbow (right for you). The right shoulder stays on top of the left arm as it moves down and out. From that on top position you have something to fire the accumulator (#1 Tricep against . . . backstop . . . launching pad).



You can see here the right shoulder is high . . . not working underneath . . . more working down and out but on top of the left arm.



Here's a shoulder working more UNDER . . . swingy . . .



Versus this . . .

[Daryl]

Hi Bucket and Happy Holidays. Hey, do you have any pictures of Hogan Swinging a Club at the exact moment of Impact? Close Ups? Face-On view?

[miji]

Mac-you must put a lot of work into that--wish I could find that "top" position (although I'm interested to hear how you respond/progress with the recommendations regarding shortening to hitter's length). My only observation, and it is hard to tell from the video, but I often need to check that I retain my rear knee flex longer to help guide my shoulder downplane. To me, this move feels more like an abdominal crunch downward and less like a squat thrust or lunge forward. When this doesn't work, I sometimes envision someone pressing against my rear shoulder at address which reminds me that the shoulder needs to go downplane...and it is a much easier move the assembly downplane when I assist with a flexed (which might feel like "flexing") knee. The comments regarding the "scooping" might also be be taken care of by keeping the flexed knee and downplane shoulder together moving the wedges longer and further forward through the ball down the baseline. Good luck.

[12 piece bucket]

Hogan thought he did this . . . .



But he REALLY did this . . .





Right shoulder still on top of the left arm not working "underneath it" . . .



Under . . . shifted out to the right closed . . . working too vertical . . .

[macgolf]

Thanks again,
12 piece and daryl that was real good. I completely understand what you are saying 12 piece. The over swinging at the top is such a problem for me, I work very hard at it and I cant do it. Im gonna try some of your thoughts. Like the thought of keeping my left on top of my right on the way down.

[gmbtempe]

Ahh, so good Bucket but so hard of a habit to break.